From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V8 #32 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Tuesday, July 23 2002 Volume 08 : Number 032 ======================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with unsubscribe scribes-digets in the body of the message. Leave the subject line blank. Do not include any additional text. peroid paint suppliesRe: [scribes]: basic supplies [scribes]: Re: scribes digest V8 #31 Re: [scribes]: Caveat in carrying ink in anything [scribes]: Re: Women Scribes Re: peroid paint suppliesRe: [scribes]: basic supplies [scribes]: Ink used, was caveat in carrying.... Re: peroid paint suppliesRe: [scribes]: basic supplies Re: [scribes]: basic supplies [scribes]: leakproof ink vessels Re: peroid paint suppliesRe: [scribes]: basic supplies Re: peroid paint suppliesRe: [scribes]: basic supplies RE: [scribes]: leakproof ink vessels RE: [scribes]: basic supplies [scribes]: art/paint suppliers [scribes]: cheap paintbrushes for beginner kits [scribes]: Romanesque flourishes and drapery [scribes]: ADV: STOP CREDITORS NOW! [scribes]: Interesting Link Re: [scribes]: Romanesque flourishes and drapery [scribes]: Casein Colors, Try No. 2 [scribes]: Washington State Re: [scribes]: Casein Colors, Try No. 2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 13:23:43 EDT From: PDRUSS@aol.com Subject: peroid paint suppliesRe: [scribes]: basic supplies - --part1_103.1893355e.2a6c481f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/21/02 11:58:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, BRNDALSTON@aol.com writes: > A note on paint: I have found that period pigments (that you can get at > Pennsic or via mail order) are actually cheaper than buying Windsor-Newton > Guache. They actually blend and paint easier than guache, as well, once you > get the hang of how much gum arabic to put in it. (Just a little plug for > using period supplies!) > > Hi, Just for myself to paly with ( and not the scribal night thingy) where can one buy peroid paint online. Tamara - --part1_103.1893355e.2a6c481f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/21/02 11:58:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, BRNDALSTON@aol.com writes:


A note on paint: I have found that period pigments (that you can get at Pennsic or via mail order) are actually cheaper than buying Windsor-Newton Guache. They actually blend and paint easier than guache, as well, once you get the hang of how much gum arabic to put in it. (Just a little plug for using period supplies!)





Hi,

Just for myself to paly with ( and not the scribal night thingy) where can one buy peroid paint online.


Tamara
 - --part1_103.1893355e.2a6c481f_boundary-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 12:57:23 -0600 From: Juanita Subject: [scribes]: Re: scribes digest V8 #31 > Even if the ink is stored "upright" in your box, if you're putting that box > into your suitcase I wouldn't bet on it staying upright for the trip. To > ensure that you don't wind up with ink all over everything else, I'd > recommend you put the ink bottle inside a zip lock bag and then put it into > the box. No matter how tight I close my ink bottles, they all seem to leak > eventually if they're knocked over. And if you're flying to Pennsic you > can bet your suitcase is going to get jostled all sorts of ways by the > airlines. > Better yet, put it in a baggy and put it in your carryon luggage. I carry all my travelling scribe stuff in a canvas bag. Two boxes, one each for pens/pencils/erasors and for paints, plus one glass jar. It's a mason (ie canning) jar, into which I stuff 2 paper towels, my ink bottle (usually Calli brand which I prefer to use), and then more paper towels. The two-part fluid-tight lids goes on, and I can go anywhere and not worry that the ink will get all over, even if it leaks. Since I don't pack the paper towels around the ink bottle, instead just putting them above and below so the bottle is wedged between them tightly, the bottle is easily visible for inspection by airport security types - which makes them happy. Packing the ink bottle inside the mason jar works for checked luggage too, though in that case, I add a gallon zip lock bag around as a precaution against broken glass. Remember to put pen knives and all scissors, not matter how small and inoffensive, in with the checked luggage. ttfn Therasia =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:03:24 +0800 From: Jean-Paul Blaquiere Subject: Re: [scribes]: Caveat in carrying ink in anything > On Jul 19, Lyle H. Gray illuminated : > > Better yet, put it in a baggy and put it in your carryon luggage. > > And there's never any guarantee that your carry-on luggage won't > get knocked upside down, either... > and never, leave sealed bottles in luggage which goes in a plane. To my horror I discovered after my first flight (of several in a recent SCA event binge [0]) my plastic Rotring ink bottle had split and spilt itself all over my pens. Thankfully I had put my pen and ink case inside a sealable baggie and the damage was limited. Phew! Reccomendation, carry all ink in hand luggage and make sure they stay upright! Even if it involved having a little bag/case which you can put in the back of the chair in front. [0] Lochac coronation one weekend and College war the next. ./jp - -- Jean-Paul Blaquiere || Avatar of Computational japester@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au || Thaumaturgy http://japester.ucc.asn.au || verum ipsum factum Questions are dangerous, for they have answers =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:10:18 -0700 (PDT) From: No Body Subject: [scribes]: Re: Women Scribes >Having not had tome to read all of the replies, I can >answer with a Yes. Hee hee! 'Tome'!(: Maybe I should just 'leaf' it alone! (Oh dear, maybe I should go to bed instead:) ~Dionysia __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:16:53 EDT From: BRNDALSTON@aol.com Subject: Re: peroid paint suppliesRe: [scribes]: basic supplies - --part1_63.ecfdda4.2a6cc515_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/21/2002 1:24:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, PDRUSS@aol.com writes: > Hi, > > Just for myself to paly with ( and not the scribal night thingy) where can > one buy peroid paint online. > > > You can send an email to Master John the Artificer at: jartificer@aol.com or go to his web site at: http://www.icubed.com/~jrose You can also get them from the Sisters of St. Gabriel, but I cannot find the URL at the moment. I believe some of the Sisters subscribe to this list. Perhaps they can post it for us? Brandy - --part1_63.ecfdda4.2a6cc515_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/21/2002 1:24:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, PDRUSS@aol.com writes:


Hi,

Just for myself to paly with ( and not the scribal night thingy) where can one buy peroid paint online.


Tamara
You can send an email to Master John the Artificer at:

jartificer@aol.com

or go to his web site at:

http://www.icubed.com/~jrose

You can also get them from the Sisters of St. Gabriel, but I cannot find the URL at the moment. I believe some of the Sisters subscribe to this list. Perhaps they can post it for us?

Brandy - --part1_63.ecfdda4.2a6cc515_boundary-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 00:12:05 -0500 From: "chiara" Subject: [scribes]: Ink used, was caveat in carrying.... What then did the ancients use for their traveling scribal box when it came to inks? Did they use dried cakes? Bladders with special seals? Anyone out there done research on this one piece of information? Thanks! :) Chiara =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:47:13 -0400 From: "Kara Westfall" Subject: Re: peroid paint suppliesRe: [scribes]: basic supplies This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01C23164.C1960440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >You can also get them from the Sisters of St. Gabriel, but I cannot = find the URL at the moment.=20 They don't have a website, but the email is Gabrielgld@aol.com=20 Chiara da Ravenna - ------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01C23164.C1960440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>You can also get them from the Sisters of St. = Gabriel,=20 but I cannot find the URL at the moment.
 
They don't have a website, but the = email is Gabrielgld@aol.com
 
Chiara da = Ravenna
- ------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01C23164.C1960440-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:59:15 -0400 From: "Kara Westfall" Subject: Re: [scribes]: basic supplies > Ok, I know that this has been already partially dealt > with, but I'm going to ask it again anyways... What > are the most basic supplies necessary to do scribal > work? Paper, pencil, straight edge, brush, source(s) of inspiration. Fine pen for inking is nice too, whether a crowquill, technical pen, Pigma or Zig Millenium. If you are doing calligraphy, add pen (cartidge, dip, quill, whatever you can find that works for you) and ink. Ruler or lettering guide are really helpful. >What 4-5 colours should I have *for sure*? Red, Blue, White. (In Winsor and Newton Gouache, Primary Red is good, and pretty easy to find. Ultramarine is a good blue. Permanent White is decent and readily available) Yellow and Black would be next in line. You can mix just about anything you need from these. Whatever color you always seem to me mixing is the next one to buy. (Probably green) Chiara da Ravenna =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:12:33 -0400 From: "Kara Westfall" Subject: [scribes]: leakproof ink vessels This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00CA_01C23168.4BB30B20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Paper and Ink Arts (and probably other places, too) has little plastic pipettes, about 6 inches long, with a reservoir. You can suck up your ink, paint, ox gall, whatever, then seal the end with a hot iron. When it's time to use, just snip the end off. They are inexpensive, you could have several in your travel kit with just enough ink for each use, then=20 toss them, or reseal. www.paperinkarts.com is the url, but they don't have the full catalog online, you need to request a paper copy. =20 Chiara - ------=_NextPart_000_00CA_01C23168.4BB30B20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Paper and Ink Arts (and probably other = places, too)=20 has little plastic
pipettes, about 6 inches long, with a = reservoir.=20 You can suck up your
ink, paint, ox gall, whatever, then = seal the end=20 with a hot iron. When
it's time to use, just snip the end = off. They are=20 inexpensive, you could
have several in your travel kit with = just enough ink for each use, then
toss them, or reseal.
 
www.paperinkarts.com is = the url, but=20 they don't have the full catalog
online, you need to request a paper = copy.=20  
 
 
Chiara
- ------=_NextPart_000_00CA_01C23168.4BB30B20-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:33:53 -0400 From: "K. Z." Subject: Re: peroid paint suppliesRe: [scribes]: basic supplies This website has not worked for months. Anyone have a new website addy for Master John. Collys >From: BRNDALSTON@aol.com >To: >Subject: Re: peroid paint suppliesRe: [scribes]: basic supplies >Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:16:53 EDT > >In a message dated 7/21/2002 1:24:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >PDRUSS@aol.com >writes: > > > > Hi, > > > > Just for myself to paly with ( and not the scribal night thingy) where >can > > one buy peroid paint online. > > > > > > > >You can send an email to Master John the Artificer at: > >jartificer@aol.com > >or go to his web site at: > >http://www.icubed.com/~jrose > >You can also get them from the Sisters of St. Gabriel, but I cannot find >the >URL at the moment. I believe some of the Sisters subscribe to this list. >Perhaps they can post it for us? > >Brandy Only a Pirates life for me. Mutiny is only a difference in opinions. Terra Marique Potens (Powerful by land and sea). _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:48:18 -0500 From: "Amy L. Hornburg Heilveil" Subject: Re: peroid paint suppliesRe: [scribes]: basic supplies At 10:33 AM 7/22/2002 -0400, K. Z. wrote: >This website has not worked for months. Anyone have a new website addy for >Master John. >Collys http://www.icubed.com/users/jrose/jartindx.html worked two seconds ago. Smiles, Despina =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:27:25 -0400 From: ESTAVASH@cs.com Subject: RE: [scribes]: leakproof ink vessels One way I've avoided ink spills while traveling is to avoid liquid ink. Ink sticks travel well, although the grinding stone is a bit heavy. I've also been experimenting with the walnut ink that Paper & Ink Arts sells in crystal form. You can reconstitute it in small quantities on site, and use it up before going home. (It's fairly nice to write with, but it's sepia, not black.) You can also write with black gouache, if you thin it to the right consistency. All these alternatives require a little extra preparation, and you need a small quantity of distilled water for best results, but I've found it's a lot less stressful to prepare the ink on site than to worry about whether the ink bottle tipped over in the luggage. Ellen Artemisia =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:03:51 -0400 From: estavash@cs.com Subject: RE: [scribes]: basic supplies As far as colors go, it depends on how complicated you want to get with shading. The essentials are red, yellow, blue, black and white. I'd stay away from the primary color gouache sets that are sometimes sold-- the blue in particular is much too light (in my opinion) compared to the rich ultramarine blue used in manuscripts. It's also hard to mix a deep malachite green from the primary set.   One thing to keep in mind is that the primary colors available in gouache or watercolor tend to lean toward warm or cool colors, and they often make one of their secondary colors well, but not the other.  For instance, a warm red may mix with yellow to make a very good orange, but the same red mixed with blue would probably make a muddy brownish purple. Therefore, an ideal mixing set would contain cool and warm versions of each primary color, plus black and white. (If anyone wants a list of recommended pigments to complete a double-primary set, I'd be happy to look them up.) That said, there are a lot of period manuscripts that were illuminated exclusively in red and blue. If I could only have 2 colors, they would be vermillion and ultramarine. Have fun shopping! Ellen (who is becoming increasingly addicted to colors) Artemisia No Body wrote: > >Ok, I know that this has been already partially dealt >with, but I'm going to ask it again anyways... What >are the most basic supplies necessary to do scribal >work? What 4-5 colours should I have *for sure*? > > >Thanks, > >~Dionysia > =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:18:05 -0400 From: "K. Z." Subject: [scribes]: art/paint suppliers One of my favorite companies to deal with for art supplies is Dick Blick. www.dickblick.com Fast, friendly and good prices on all types of supplies that scribes use. On-line and paper catalogs. Phone, fax, on-line and mail ordering. I have ordered from them for sometime and never (crossing fingers) have had a problem. Just passing this along. Collys Only a Pirates life for me. Mutiny is only a difference in opinions. Terra Marique Potens (Powerful by land and sea). _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:16:22 -0500 From: Gwendoline Rosamond Subject: [scribes]: cheap paintbrushes for beginner kits Greetings, I just bought a bunch of nylon paintbrushes (from a 10/0 on up) for about 68 cents each. I bought a whole bunch of them for my teaching new people kit and thought other people might be interested them as well. Oh, I got them at Joanne Fabrics... Cheers, Gwendoline =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:02:07 -0400 From: "E. Brown" Subject: [scribes]: Romanesque flourishes and drapery Greetings, I'm new to illumination, and would dearly like to learn how to reproduce the flourish-y bits of Romanesque illustration (I think of this as post-Celtic knotwork, though still frequently intricate and entwined designs, up to 12th c.). I really love the drapery on the figures, and similarly want to figure out how to recreate them. Are there any existing articles out there about them? Or can anyone give me some general advice about getting started? I'm a self-taught artist, w/ no training to speak of outside SCA illustration (and doing heraldic critters). Looking forward to the input, regards, Genevieve la flechiere Bucina herald Skraeling Althing, Ealdormere - -- All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed. - -Sean O'Casey, playwright (1880-1964) =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:08:42 -0700 (PDT) From: davidsanders@americandebtsettlement.com Subject: [scribes]: ADV: STOP CREDITORS NOW! - --=200207221651= Content-Type: text/html;charset=US-ASCII Untitled Document
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- ------=_NextPart_000_021C_01C231BF.31E37520-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:11:56 EDT From: KMcWhyte@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: Romanesque flourishes and drapery - --part1_22.2bffd582.2a6e075c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you're planning on attending Pennsic this year, I believe Mistress Michel Almond is planning to teach a class on drapery. Check out www.pennsicwar.org and look up the class schedule. :) - --Lady Kayleigh McWhyte, "Mercenary Scribe" (East) E.Frank, Long Island NY In a message dated 7/22/02 8:02:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tabby@igs.net writes: > Greetings, > > I'm new to illumination, and would dearly like to learn how to reproduce > the flourish-y bits of Romanesque illustration (I think of this as > post-Celtic knotwork, though still frequently intricate and entwined > designs, up to 12th c.). I really love the drapery on the figures, and > similarly want to figure out how to recreate them. > > Are there any existing articles out there about them? Or can anyone give > me some general advice about getting started? I'm a self-taught artist, > w/ no training to speak of outside SCA illustration (and doing heraldic > critters). > > Looking forward to the input, regards, > > Genevieve la flechiere > Bucina herald > Skraeling Althing, Ealdormere > -- > All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed. > -Sean O'Casey, playwright (1880-1964) > - --part1_22.2bffd582.2a6e075c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you're planning on attending Pennsic this year, I believe Mistress Michel Almond is planning to teach a class on drapery. Check out www.pennsicwar.org and look up the class schedule. :)

--Lady Kayleigh McWhyte, "Mercenary Scribe" (East)
E.Frank, Long Island NY

In a message dated 7/22/02 8:02:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tabby@igs.net writes:


Greetings,

I'm new to illumination, and would dearly like to learn how to reproduce
the flourish-y bits of Romanesque illustration (I think of this as
post-Celtic knotwork, though still frequently intricate and entwined
designs, up to 12th c.). I really love the drapery on the figures, and
similarly want to figure out how to recreate them.

Are there any existing articles out there about them? Or can anyone give
me some general advice about getting started? I'm a self-taught artist,
w/ no training to speak of outside SCA illustration (and doing heraldic
critters).

Looking forward to the input, regards,

Genevieve la flechiere
Bucina herald
Skraeling Althing, Ealdormere
--
All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed.
-Sean O'Casey, playwright (1880-1964)


- --part1_22.2bffd582.2a6e075c_boundary-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 00:26:26 -0600 From: Greg Young/Jocelyn Wirth Subject: [scribes]: Casein Colors, Try No. 2 Greetings all, I tried sending this a week ago, according to a friend, it never showed up on the list. Here's try #2.... *********** Greetings all, While on my way home from WW IX, I stopped in Minneapolis and picked up a basic set of 6 tubes of Signa-Sein Casein Colors. Now, other than knowing that this is a 'medieval' formula of milk paint, I know nothing about this stuff. Any advice? Ainesleah ***************************************************************************** Mistress Hermina Matilda de Ainesleah of Meredene, OL Member # 19216 HL Robin Arthur Kyrke, Esq., Forester and Sargent Member # 28653 Barony of Castel Rouge Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Jocelyn Wirth and Greg Young excalibr@gatewest.net ****************************************************************************** =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 05:09:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Mahee Subject: [scribes]: Washington State My family has decided that it is time to move...in about a school year that is. I am a teacher and they would like to move to Washington state. If you live in the area, please reply privately. I need to know what school districts are near good groups. Thank you. your servant, mahee ps. sorry for the mundanity __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:06:50 -0400 From: "Kara Westfall" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Casein Colors, Try No. 2 - --Color when dry is lighter than when wet. - --Mixes with water, remains water soluble for a time, then becomes insoluble. - --Dries to a matte finish, but can be buffed with a soft cloth to give it a slight sheen. - --Opaque like gouache I've used it, and generally liked it, though I much prefer the colors available in gouache. Casein (at least the kind I used which was Shiva in tubes) has a more muted appearance. The fact that it becomes insoluble to water can be either good or bad--if you are the type who likes to rework things days later, this might cause problems. If, however, you give it plenty of time to dry before it's given out, it can be an advantage to have something that won't bleed when the recipient sweats on it or something. Hope this helps Chiara da Ravenna =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V8 #32 ****************************