From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V5 #16 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Thursday, February 15 2001 Volume 05 : Number 016 ======================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with unsubscribe scribes-digets in the body of the message. Leave the subject line blank. Do not include any additional text. [scribes]: can't wait to check it at home myself.. Re: [scribes]: Hello! Re: [scribes]: Hello! [scribes]: Thank you for the warm welcome! Re: [scribes]: Hello! Re: [scribes]: Hello! [scribes]: Atlantian scribal collegium! Re: [scribes]: Hello! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 07:19:14 -0500 From: "Judith Kirk" Subject: [scribes]: can't wait to check it at home myself.. So I'm asking here. Someone I know is studying the St. Matthew page in Kells, and she asserts that gold leaf is being used. I can't check any of my good sources until I get home tonight, can anyone verify this for me? I didn't think leaf was used in that manuscript or many of that era and place, but as Foghorn Leghorn intones "Ah could....ah say, Ah _could_ be wrong..." :-) Thanks! Siobhan =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 07:36:36 EST From: KMcWhyte@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: Hello! Dear Sara and Lani -- Greetings, welcome to the fold. :) There ARE East Kingdom scribes on this list Sara... I'm one of them. Unfortunately, Caer Adamant is waaaaaay south of where I am, which is on the northern end of Southern Region (!), in An Dubhaigheainn (Long Island, in commonspeak). This weekend I'm planning on attending the Teahouse of the White Crane event, barring illness, injury, tornado, act of God, etc.... I'm hoping to attend Mudthaw too, which may be closer to you, down in Settmour Swamp (southern NJ) on March 10th. As far as group meetings for scribes goes.... I'm not sure of whether or not there are any near you; it may be a wise idea to contact your local head of Arts & Sciences. If you can't reach her, just drop a letter to the Tyger Signet, Duchess Stanhope, who could give you more information than I could ever hope to (including the book on EK guidelines for scribing). Her e-mail is in the Pikestaff, on the inside of the front cover. Speaking of scribal groups... I spoke to "Cricket" out here about whether or not there were scribal meetings for this barony (An Dubh), as I know there used to be workshops in neighboring Ostgardr, but closer to New York City. It so happens that the only thing she has going as far as meetings for us artsy-fartsy types is an A&S meeting... but she's more than willing to see a scribal group/guild formed. That said, I'll be attending a baronial meeting tonight (first time attending one, in the entire 2 1/2 yrs in the SCA) to make my request of the Baron and Baroness. Up until I joined this list, I had no idea that there were such things as scribal meetings. It turns out they're fairly common in other locations.... Both of you (Lani and Sara) may wish to locate a baronial officer, and if there isn't a meeting in your area, look into organizing one. While I am not a laurel in the scribal Arts, I do have a background in art from college, and am looking to hold these meetings in a public location such as one of my former colleges' studios. At least that way, it's easier to locate, and might not scare off newbies as would (likely) the thought of going to a stranger's home to discuss scribal stuff and work together. There's a number of scribes in this area -- some of them are laurels, some are not -- but having a place to gather would definitely be cool. *crossing her fingers, hoping tonight's meeting goes well* Good luck to both of you, too. :) - --Kayleigh McWhyte, Mercenary Scribe (East) E.Frank, Long Island NY =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 08:17:37 -0600 From: "Amy L. Hornburg Heilveil" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Hello! - --=====================_232753241==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 11:53 PM 2/14/2001 -0700, Dave and Lani Kyea wrote: >Old Phart Johannes v.n Greetings from a new kid on the block (chopping? >stone? ice?) ' Thank you for your greeting to Sarah which I am taking to >include me as i am also a new to the list child and admirer of you scribal >Old Phaarts too. ----Lani ----who is looking to you not only for >scribal support but I could sure use a new way to fix ground lamb. Lani, I have requested that my husband, a cook of some small note, send you a wonderous pre-1600 recipie for falafel made with ground lamb. It is suburb! Welcome to the scribes list, may your time with us increase your desire to strive for more. Cu Drag, Despina de la Brasov (not one of the old pharts) - ---------- Quot Libros Quam Breve Tempus. So Many Books, So Little Time - --=====================_232753241==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" At 11:53 PM 2/14/2001 -0700, Dave and Lani Kyea wrote:
Old Phart Johannes v.n  Greetings from a new kid on the block (chopping?
stone?  ice?) '  Thank you for your greeting to Sarah which I am taking to
include me as i am also a new to the list  child and admirer of you scribal
Old Phaarts too.          - ----Lani ----who is looking to you not only for
scribal support but I could sure use a new way to fix ground lamb.

Lani,
I have requested that my husband, a cook of some small note, send you a wonderous pre-1600 recipie for falafel made with ground lamb.  It is suburb!

Welcome to the scribes list, may your time with us increase your desire to strive for more.

Cu Drag,
Despina de la Brasov
(not one of the old pharts)
Quot Libros Quam Breve Tempus.
So Many Books, So Little Time
 - --=====================_232753241==_.ALT-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:16:22 EST From: Floriligeum@aol.com Subject: [scribes]: Thank you for the warm welcome! - --part1_dc.25a8778.27bd3eb6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am so happy to have found your list & was delighted this morning when I found so many warm welcomes. I almost never manage to get to my computer in the mornings, usually I have to wait until after I put my kids to bed. But I confess I was desperately curious to see if I had received any responses to my introduction. Not only did I find all of the lovely greetings from Lady Olwyn, Meisterin Katarina, Johannes v.n., Thorfin, and Kayleigh, but I also got a direct email from a local scribe who is willing to help me directly. Huzzah! I am so excited! Lani, Welcome I am happy to be in the company of another "newbie" I hope that we both find the mentoring and answers we are seeking. Sarah Shire of Caer Adamant, East - --part1_dc.25a8778.27bd3eb6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am so happy to have found your list & was delighted this morning when I
found so many warm welcomes.  I almost never manage to get to my computer in
the mornings, usually I have to wait until after I put my kids to bed.  But I
confess I was desperately curious to see if I had received any responses to
my introduction.  Not only did I find all of the lovely greetings from Lady
Olwyn, Meisterin Katarina, Johannes v.n., Thorfin, and Kayleigh, but I also
got a direct email from a local scribe who is willing to help me directly.  
Huzzah! I am so excited!  

Lani, Welcome I am happy to be in the company of another "newbie" I hope that
we both find the mentoring and answers we are seeking.  

Sarah
Shire of Caer Adamant, East - --part1_dc.25a8778.27bd3eb6_boundary-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:22:24 -0500 From: "Helen Schultz" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Hello! Lani & Sarah (and any other new scribe): Thank you for the praise of my site. Take heart, you CAN learn to do many of the illumination and calligraphy without direct instruction... but, it is easier when you have the face-to-face contact. When I first started out, I had little or no personal instruction in Drachenwald (they were just starting to go to hand-made scrolls from Xeroxed copies colored in with felt markers ), and did quite well to start with. I'm at work at the moment and don't have the book citations with me, but I think I put them on my web site, so look for them there. There are a couple places you might be able to go to for this face-to-face instruction, and that is to Pennsic http://www.pennsicwar.org/penn30/ which is held the first two weeks of August in western Pennsylvania (about an hour drive north of Pittsburgh). Being new to the SCA, it might be a bit of sensory overload, but you would be able to learn from the best instructors in the Known World. The other is begins this weekend in the Phoenix area called The Estrella Wars. Perhaps someone from out that way can put up the web page on it, if it exists. (I couldn't find one on the Atenveld Kingdom page). Meisterin Katarina Helene (KHvS) (PS.... just a comment, with this list, you have to hit "Reply All" and then delete off the individual's e-mail. If you don't do that, the person you are intending to reply to gets two copies of the reply -- one from the list and the other from you directly. If you intend to just reply to the individual without going back to the list, you just hit "Reply.") - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave and Lani Kyea" To: "Helen Schultz" ; "Scribe's List" <> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 1:38 AM Subject: Re: [scribes]: Hello! Dear Lady, It is such a thrill to read your message and view your site! It only saddens me I do not live close enough to have your expertise nearby. Thank you so very much for your warm welcome. Lani-------who is so happy to be among the scribes ----- Original Message ----- From: Helen Schultz To: Scribe's List Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [scribes]: Hello! Welcome, Sarah: We have several new SCA scribes and proto-scribes on the list, as well as "old phfarts" like Johannes, RanthulfR, Robert, me, etc., etc., etc. I do hope you find a mentor in that area, unfortunately, I live in North Central Indiana, a bit too far to do more than on-line help . Should you need some assistance, please ask away... you will get a good healthy variety of answers. And, we just LOVE new and enthusiastic scribes!! There are a couple people on the list who have some really good "how to get started" web sites, and I even have one part of my site with just a little help on it so far... http://www.netusa1.net/~meistern Meisterin Katarina Helene von Schoenborn, OL Shire of Narrental, Middle Kingdom =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:35:34 -0500 From: "Jennifer" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Hello! Dear Sara and Lani, Welcome to the List! I unfortunately am waaay too far away from both of you to help you directly, (I live in Southern Ontario!), but there are countless numbers of scribal links to guide you along the way in the scribal arts. (You'll pick them up as time goes by.) But if it helps any, here is the link to the Kingdom of Ealdormere Scribe's Website. It will give you some links and information on how we do scrolls up here in the North. http://ealdormere.sca.org/signet/ Good luck in your search for local scribes and meetings. And I hope you enjoy this list as much as I do! Genevieve Chastellain Rising Waters, Ealdormere Mistress of the Laurel (Callig & Illum) (relatively new to this list as well) (Jennifer Johnson) =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:40:42 -0500 From: LINDA PANCRAZIO Subject: [scribes]: Atlantian scribal collegium! Shameless plug alert... While we're on the topic of scribal training. If you're within driving distance of Northern Virginia - we're having a scribal collegium this month (the 24th). More details can be found here: http://scribe.atlantia.sca.org/scriptoria and I'll send an attached word document of the spiffy new up-to-date class listing and schedule to anyone who asks. Geva - -- Lady Genevieve d'Evreux Atlantian Clerk Signet http://scribe.atlantia.sca.org =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 08:03:24 -0700 From: "Dave and Lani Kyea" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Hello! Kayleigh McWhyte----I thank you for your message of welcome and the idea of starting my own scribal meetings. That is a possibility. I look forward so very much to my association with you learned scribes. Thank you.Lani from the Outlands. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 5:36 AM Subject: Re: [scribes]: Hello! > Dear Sara and Lani -- > > Greetings, welcome to the fold. :) There ARE East Kingdom scribes on this > list Sara... I'm one of them. Unfortunately, Caer Adamant is waaaaaay south > of where I am, which is on the northern end of Southern Region (!), in An > Dubhaigheainn (Long Island, in commonspeak). This weekend I'm planning on > attending the Teahouse of the White Crane event, barring illness, injury, > tornado, act of God, etc.... I'm hoping to attend Mudthaw too, which may be > closer to you, down in Settmour Swamp (southern NJ) on March 10th. > > As far as group meetings for scribes goes.... I'm not sure of whether or not > there are any near you; it may be a wise idea to contact your local head of > Arts & Sciences. If you can't reach her, just drop a letter to the Tyger > Signet, Duchess Stanhope, who could give you more information than I could > ever hope to (including the book on EK guidelines for scribing). Her e-mail > is in the Pikestaff, on the inside of the front cover. > > Speaking of scribal groups... I spoke to "Cricket" out here about whether or > not there were scribal meetings for this barony (An Dubh), as I know there > used to be workshops in neighboring Ostgardr, but closer to New York City. It > so happens that the only thing she has going as far as meetings for us > artsy-fartsy types is an A&S meeting... but she's more than willing to see a > scribal group/guild formed. That said, I'll be attending a baronial meeting > tonight (first time attending one, in the entire 2 1/2 yrs in the SCA) to > make my request of the Baron and Baroness. > > Up until I joined this list, I had no idea that there were such things as > scribal meetings. It turns out they're fairly common in other locations.... > Both of you (Lani and Sara) may wish to locate a baronial officer, and if > there isn't a meeting in your area, look into organizing one. While I am not > a laurel in the scribal Arts, I do have a background in art from college, and > am looking to hold these meetings in a public location such as one of my > former colleges' studios. At least that way, it's easier to locate, and might > not scare off newbies as would (likely) the thought of going to a stranger's > home to discuss scribal stuff and work together. There's a number of scribes > in this area -- some of them are laurels, some are not -- but having a place > to gather would definitely be cool. > > *crossing her fingers, hoping tonight's meeting goes well* > Good luck to both of you, too. :) > > --Kayleigh McWhyte, Mercenary Scribe (East) > E.Frank, Long Island NY > =================================================================== > To unsubscribe from this list, send email to > with a blank Subject: line and > unsubscribe scribes > in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in > the body. > > > =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V5 #16 ****************************