From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V1 #13 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Tuesday, January 27 1998 Volume 01 : Number 013 In this issue: [scribes]: re: awake at all hours [scribes]: Inter Library Loan (was Re: Exemplars for New Scribes) Re: [scribes]: Re: Pigment storage [scribes]: Scribing at GWW? Re: [scribes]: Scribing at GWW? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Jan 98 09:47:03 PDT From: Holly_Sullivan@elric.maximumaccess.com (Holly Sullivan) Subject: [scribes]: re: awake at all hours > > Is anyone still up at this hour? Meant to answer this earlier.. I'm usually up in the wee hours; the mail comes into my BBS here 24 hours a day, but I don't always read it right away. Guess I should have looked at it that time. :-) - -- Via DLG2000 v1.2.4 :)---Holly---<--<-@ * Barony of Calafia, CAID * San Diego, CA * (grin) TechnoMages Guild BBS 619 549-0278 http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/4201 Quarterly barry wavy, argent and sable, and gules, a mermaid displayed proper between in bend sinister two compass-stars sable, fimbriated argent. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:52:32 -0500 From: "June Lathrop" Subject: [scribes]: Inter Library Loan (was Re: Exemplars for New Scribes) >University and college libraries are one place to look at books which >might not be available through your county library system. You can't >usually check them out unless you are a student, but often just spending >a few hours looking, sketching ideas, layouts and motifs, etc. can help. >When I was playing with Madrone (Seattle, WA) one of the SCAdians who was >familiar with it took a group of us on a tour of the medievally- >interesting portions of the University of Washington library, so that we >would know where to come to find out what we wanted to know. (This is a >hint for you institutes- of- higher- learning people.) Those books usually are available through Inter Library Loan (ILL). This is a great way to preview books you're considring buying with no cost to you at all. Just go to your library and give your research librarian the title, author, ISBN (the more info you can give, the better) and they'll search out the book for you and it will be delivered to your local library for you to borrow. (Note: ILL material is usually not renewable.) Many of the books I've borrowed have come from college/university libraries from across the US and from as far away as Texas (I live in NJ), places where I would not normally have access to and/or borrowing privileges. The only down side to this is that the requests do take time, but they will rush the process if you're working on an assignment. In fact, I just picked up a copy of the book The Common Chronicle, that was recently discussed on this list. It came from Lock Haven University, Lock Haven, PA. That request was a fast one, the book came in within a week. Others have taken as long as a month or more. And the librarians are more than happy to help....after apologizing for bugging her for yet another ILL request one time, my local librarian explained that the libraries LIKE the system...it's a way to expand their holdings at minimal cost. In fact, she encouraged using ILL, as the more folk use it, the more the system will be refined and expanded. By all means, visit your library and ask about this terrific service. And best of all, it's free! Lady Juliana Stafford, Royal Forest of Rusted Woodlands, East June Lathrop, West Milford, NJ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:48:42 -0500 From: randyaf@provide.net (Randy & Melody Asplund-Faith) Subject: Re: [scribes]: Re: Pigment storage >In a message dated 98-01-26 14:12:28 EST, randyaf@provide.net writes: > ><< With respect to the message below, I stronly suggest NOT using > rubber stoppers on glass tubes for storing DRY pigments. The problem is the > dust which pops up when you open and close them. Even if it is only a > little, some of that dust is highly toxic. >> > >I agree about safety but I smoke large cigars and I couldn't possibly fill one >of these tubes with enough pigment to cause it to atomize so near the top. I >have also done a test when I am painting with white lead whereby I wet at >cotton ball with the reagent from a water/lead test kit and so far have not >had any reactions. The vials from Master John also come with little rubber >stoppers.......so there you have it, two different methods.-JimBear Except what you are not considering is that this is blanket-coverage advice for good safety pointed at people who may not know which pigments are bad and which are less bad. You can take a lot of some and never have adverse reactions. Then there are others which need only a trace amount to cause a bad reaction. Not to mention that after a lot of use small traces add up. The risk of spillage from a rubber stopper comes because when the tube travells and pigment shakes to the top, it sticks to the inside surface of the stopper. When you open the stopper you can't help but have the rapid expansion of the rubber flick this stuff off. If you doubt me about the danger of traces, then ask Mistress Annora de Sylveastan about the little cut on her wrist which got a trace amount of orpiment into it. It made a nasty wound out of nothing! It is always best to adopt safe handling practices, no matter what you use. Then when you get relaxed or complacent and forget, the habit works FOR you. Ranthulfr Randy Asplund-Faith 2101 S. Circle Dr. Ann Arbor, MI. 48103 http://www.provide.net/~randyaf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:12:01 -0800 From: Karen Williams Subject: [scribes]: Scribing at GWW? Great Western War II is coming up, and I wondered if anyone knows of any scribal classes and/or demonstrations going on there. Are any of you going? Branwen ferch Emrys The Mists, the West - ---- Karen Williams kwilliams@savi.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:52:29 -0800 From: Carolyn_Richardson@cch.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: Scribing at GWW? >>Great Western War II is coming up, and I wondered if anyone knows of any scribal classes and/or demonstrations going on there. Are any of you going?<< I don't recall any scribe classes being offered off the top of my head, but I can check with the Art's Autocrat who I have to call anyway. Tetchubah of Greenlake Kingdom of Caid (and GWW2 Exchequer) ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V1 #13 ****************************